If You Could, Would You Get Rid Of Dyspraxia Now?

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Postby Charlotte1 » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:06 pm

This poll is for dyspraxics only.

I have already asked you if you would choose to get rid of your dyspraxia as a baby if you could and go through life as a person without dyspraxia.

This poll is asking you if someone came up to you now and said you could get rid of your dyspraxia, having had experience of living with it, would you?

Your answer to this poll may well be different to the answer to my previous poll.

Think before you vote.

I am very interested to hear people's answers.
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Postby Matt » Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:21 pm

No, because it makes me who I am. Plus, if it wasn't for my dyspraxia, I wouldn't have made this website which has helped so many people.
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Postby MIKE9899 » Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:11 pm

i agree with matt having dyspraxia made us who we are and what makes us unique.
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Postby k9ruby » Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:10 pm

for my reason mentioned in da other poll!
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Postby misanthropist » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:59 pm

<span style='font-family:Arial'> Of course I would. </span>
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Postby CloudHunter » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:11 pm

I probably would be different without dyspraxia, it makes me who I am and I like who I am :D
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Postby benjnottingham » Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:43 pm

Matt wrote: No, because it makes me who I am. Plus, if it wasn't for my dyspraxia, I wouldn't have made this website which has helped so many people.

I also agree with Matt about dyspraxia
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Postby misanthropist » Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:24 am

CloudHunter wrote:I probably would be different without dyspraxia, it makes me who I am and I like who I am :D

<span style='font-family:Arial'> Yeah, in a good way. Having dyspraxia isn't a good thing. Saying you'd want to keep it because it makes you who you are is the same as a person in a wheelchair saying they'd rather keep their disability. Unless everyone only sees your disability and your whole concept of self revolves around it that'd be ridiculous; in fact, that in itself would be ridiculous. Let's not give the children here a deluded view of what it's like to have it. It's a struggle, and something that should be worked hard on improving. </span>
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Postby Cheryl » Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:01 am

Let's not give the children here a deluded view of what it's like to have it. It's a struggle, and something that should be worked hard on improving.

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I dont think anyone here is giving the children a "deluded view" of anything! <_<

I think what we are trying to do is to raise self esteem and help the children feel valued as human beings! :) :D

We all know that living with dyspraxia is a struggle (we have to live with it!!) and I know for a fact that everyone I have met on this forum/chatroom is here to support and help each other with any problems that arise! :)
We are all working hard to improve these childrens' quality of life - helping them to improve or overcome problems! :)

Unless everyone only sees your disability


<span style='color:red'>People DONT see this disability - that is why it is known as the "hidden handicap"!</span>

The aim of everyone here is to show these children that they are individual and special even though they have dyspraxia and to learn how to cope with the difficulties that are caused by it !
These children have been made to feel that they are inferior human beings by a lot of people who have been in authority in their lives - ie school, extra curricular groups etc! :angry: and, we as their families are just trying to correct the damage that has been done!

The aim of this website is to raise awareness of dyspraxia so that future generations of children do not have to suffer what our children have suffered!
I think it does a great job and we should all thank Matt, Helen and Darren for all the love and support they have given us! :) I know that I couldnt have coped the last few months without knowing they were here! :)

I am very glad that my friends on this forum can accept themselves for the wonderful people they are - it shows that they are mature enough to embrace their "disability" and not be ashamed of it! :D :wub:
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Postby misanthropist » Sat Jul 17, 2004 12:17 pm

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I think what we are trying to do is to raise self esteem and help the children feel valued as human beings!


Value is something that should be earned, just like respect. They should have to earn it just like everyone else, and they will have to, in the real world.

We are all working hard to improve these childrens' quality of life - helping them to improve or overcome problems!


But is that enough? I know of moms who tried to help their children by killing them. Good intentions that are misguided are worthless.

The aim of everyone here is to show these children that they are individual and special even though they have dyspraxia and to learn how to cope with the difficulties that are caused by it


I suspect they already know they’re individuals, and being special isn’t necessarily a good thing. Having dyspraxia in itself constitutes them as special; more over, everyone is special. Striving for mediocre goals I don't think is the best of philosophies.

These children have been made to feel that they are inferior human beings by a lot of people who have been in authority in their lives - ie school, extra curricular groups etc!  and, we as their families are just trying to correct the damage that has been done!


Really? My family tried to make me feel inferior.

The aim of this website is to raise awareness of dyspraxia so that future generations of children do not have to suffer what our children have suffered!


Suffering is inevitable for all humans. Furthermore, “awarenessâ€
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Postby k9ruby » Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:10 pm

How exactly do you embrace a disability? Hopefully in your mind it only makes up a small part of who they are.

Sorry if this seems like an attack but i am seeing you as one of those people that don't 'get it'
Dyspraxia makes up alot of me and i feel special cus of it!
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Postby WARTORIOUS » Sat Jul 17, 2004 5:01 pm

Hi,, theres a simaler thread on here, so i will post up what i put down for it here

I like being me and if time was changed then I would see a stranger in my body, who is nothing like me. When i was young i was doing really bad at school so I would have fallen in with the "bad kids" and become a gang member type.

I love being me.

Im all for Genetic improvement, I think it will soon make the majority of people smarter, fitter, and Genetic disease free. Dyspraxia isn’t really serious and i don't think it will be changed, but more serious conditions can be treated before they happen. Im Dyspraxic, But in my family there’s quite a lot of Diabetes and Arthritis when my family gets 80+, Gene therapy can eliminate the chance of getting these.

There’s a huge difference between altering a fetuses DNA slightly to make the end baby healthier and saying to people "If You Had A Choice, Would You Be Born Dyspraxic?"
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Postby Charlotte1 » Sat Jul 17, 2004 6:10 pm

Apoligies in advance for this being such a long post but I have rather a lot to say.

I started this topic and a similiar one about changing dyspraxia and I'd like to thank everyone for their replies. I have dyspraxia and I was just really interested to know whether other dyspraxics would change dyspraxia if they could.

With one exception, I was suprised at how positive your comments were about your 'disability', and I generally agreed with you. Dyspraxia makes me who I am too. My life wouldn't have been the same without it. I wouldn't have struggled through school and had to work so hard. I'll never forget getting my GCSE results, the tears were rolling down my face because I was so pleased. I had worked so hard for them and dyspraxia is what taught me to work hard. I truly believe that I would be quite a lazy person if I didn't have it. Being treated unfairly and knowing what pain is from an early age made me caring towards others. I remember a lot of the bad bits of my childhood and am now training to work with children because I remember childhood so well. I don't know whether I'd understand children so well if I wasn't dyspraxic.

Matt: No, (i wouldn't change dyspraxia) because it (dyspraxia) makes me who I am. Plus, if it wasn't for my dyspraxia, I wouldn't have made this website which has helped so many people


Yes Matt, and I certainly wouldn't be sitting here typing this. I have come across so many people through this site who I count as friends that I wouldn't have had I not been dyspraxic. I will always admire you for setting this site up, it must give hope to people all around the world who have dyspraxia, have a child/relative with dyspraxia or are being bullied. It certainly gave me hope when I was doing exams at school.

I am pleased that so many dyspraxic people are so positive. Reading all your comments was great, I was thinking 'Yes! I agree! I agree!' but I wanted to wait and see what other people thought before passing my own judgement about dyspraxia which is why I waited so long before posting this.

Of course everyone is entitled to their own view on dyspraxia and it certainly isn't a bed of roses. Misanthropist I accept your opinion that dyspraxia 'isn't a good thing' but it is just that, an opinion. You may not see it as a good thing but some people may it's good points. I would say from my own view that dyspraxics generally work harder, are better at music, are better at reading and are more caring and overall nice people than others. I class these things as being 'good.' I would like to say I am a positive person.

Misanthropist, I have read your opinions and would now like to tell you a few of mine:

Saying you'd want to keep it because it makes you who you are is the same as a person in a wheelchair saying they'd rather keep their disability.


As dyspraxia is a 'Hidden Handicap', it is not like having to be in a wheelchair 24/7. I can't imagine what it must be like to never be able to walk and, for me, dyspraxia is nothing like being in a wheelchair.

Let's not give the children here a deluded view of what it's like to have it.

Let me take this moment to say that, in my experience, children are very misunderstood by some adults and teenagers who seem to forget that they were children once themselves. Because children think differently from adults and are smaller than adults some people assume they are stupid and think it's acceptable to patronise them. The majority of 'the children' who visit this site have dyspraxia or have a sibling/relative/friend who is dyspraxic. 'The Children' who are dyspraxic KNOW what it's like to have it without hearing anyone elses view. 'The Children' who aren't are getting most of the education they'll ever need about dyspraxia from this forum and Matt's hideout.

Value is something that should be earned, just like respect. They (children) should have to earn it just like everyone else, and they will have to, in the real world.


I am studying childcare. We have been taught, and I firmly believe, that value does NOT have to be earnt. In fact I think people don't value children enough. Children should be valued and respected for who they are. If they are not valued and respected by adults around them then they will probably become unhappy, confused individuals with low self-esteem. This can lead to being shy, anxious, bullying other children, being bullied by other children, depression, mental illness and even suicide.

Maybe you were one of those children who wasn't valued and respected enough?
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(To Cheryl) Are you asserting you would have killed yourself? Perhaps you have some deeper issues than these forums can provide.


I don't see how, in any way, by thanking Helen, Darren and Matt for the support they have given and saying 'I know that I couldn't have coped the last few months without knowing they were here!' Cheryl is implying that she would take such drastic action as to kill herself! Cheryl, (I hope you don't mind me speaking for you Cheryl) like many people who come to this site just wants to thank Helen, Darren and Matt for setting this site up. It is nice to chat to people who understand. Suicide is nothing to joke about or insult people with. Neither would I compare Cheryl trying to help her son with people who kill their children!

Everyone is entitled to their own view of dyspraxia but I personally think it's great that so many of us would choose to keep our 'disability' or 'gift'.
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Postby Cheryl » Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:14 pm

To Misanthropist

I feel so sorry for you that you are so negative regarding dyspraxia and life in general :( It is obvious that you have big problems with yourself and how you have been treated in the past. I hope that you get the help you need! :)

Value is something that should be earned, just like respect. They should have to earn it just like everyone else, and they will have to, in the real world.

You say that value should be earned - I do not agree - ALL CHILDREN need to be valued so that in their adult life they too can value other people! It is up to us as parents to teach children through example about what is important in life and how to treat others! :)

These children <span style='color:red'>are</span> in the real world! Perhaps not the same sort of world that you are in.

But is that enough? I know of moms who tried to help their children by killing them. Good intentions that are misguided are worthless


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Are you asserting you would have killed yourself? Perhaps you have some deeper issues than these forums can provide


I think that your issue is really with anyone who has a different view than you :blink: - instead of seeing the other persons point of view you reduce yourself to attacking them - I feel that is a real lack of tolerance, understanding and maturity! <_<

You may find that you would be more valued and respected on this website if you could post without such an aggressive attitude! We are all friends here! :D

I hope you get the emotional and psychological help that you obviously need - you would get the support here from these wonderful people if only you would let them!

I am so glad that everyone else on this website can see the positive side of this condition - the world is a much better place because of them! :D :lol: :) B)
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Postby Cheryl » Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:26 pm

To Charlotte :D

What a special girl you are...!! :D

I am amazed at your lack of bitterness for how you were treated earlier in your life! :) Go for the childcare profession - you will be brill!! :D B)

Thankyou for your support in your post - I WAS simply thanking Helen, Darren and Matt - isnt it sad some people can twist something so positive into something so negative! :(

You are a girl with great insight, wisdom and compassion - I hope you can pass these qualities on throughout your life - it is a great gift! :)

Will see you probably in the chat room sometime - until then look forward to reading your posts! :)

love Cheryl B)
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