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Auristic Traits

Postby James Brimer » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:43 am

Is not being able to stop questioning our existance after watching a film such as the Matrix an autistic trait???, I am still questioning my own existance, yet I know I exist....or do I????

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Re: Auristic Traits

Postby abi » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:34 am

i dont know if its an autistic trait, but i do that all the time.
the way i see it, dyspraxia is an extra hurdle in every race i run, but that extra hurdle, is just extra exercise, so in the end, i will come through stronger.
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Re: Auristic Traits

Postby Steph » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:35 am

I don't think it's an autistic trait. I have Aspergers and I sometimes question if I am really alive or just dreaming that I'm alive but it usually passes quickly. It's probably an individual personality thing.
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Re: Auristic Traits

Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:43 am

I agree with Steph.
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Re: Auristic Traits

Postby parnassus » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:23 pm

I think every human being has asked that question at some point or other. It crops up a lot in philosophy texts. My first encounter with it was through the story of Lao Tzu and the butterfly: Lao Tzu dreamed of a butterfly one night, and woke up wondering whether he was just a butterfly in somebody else's dream. Was he really alive at all?

You don't have to be autistic to take an interest in things like this. I think we should be wary of attributing everything we think to autism or dyspraxia.
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Re: Auristic Traits

Postby James Brimer » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:01 pm

1. I wish to make sure, I would am not the type of person to go around saying that this and that are related to Dyspraxia etc.

2.To put in a clearer way: Is it an autistic trait not being able to tell the diffrence between this "reality" and other forms of existance, i.e dreams etc? Is this a clearwer question??.

3.I mean no offence at all if any was taken :cry:
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Re: Auristic Traits

Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:17 pm

I can't speak for others, but I wasn't offended and I don't think anyone else seemed offended.

I think most people, autistic or not, think dreams are real WHILE THEY ARE DREAMING THEM. Lucid dreams are very rare. Most people relise it's not real when they wake up, though.

I often lose things and sometimes I dream that I have found them, then later I think I have them before I remember I only found them in a dream and not reality. I don't know if that's a dyspraxic trait.

When I was very ill I sometimes thought that dreams were sending me messages that people wanted to hurt me. That was not because of dyspraxia,* but if that is what is happening to you, you should see a doctor about it.

*Although it was in an indirect way, because my illness was largely caused by stress, and a lot of that stress was dyspraxia-related.
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Re: Auristic Traits

Postby wm1995 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:29 pm

Thirteen-thirty-seven wrote:Lucid dreams are very rare.


On a (hopefully) interesting tangent, questioning whether you're currently awake or dreaming often is meant to make lucid dreaming more likely.
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Re: Auristic Traits

Postby parnassus » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:53 pm

I wasn't offended, James. I'm sorry if my post came across as a little terse - I would have written a longer response if I had had the time.

Autism is characterised by a 'triad of impairments' - impairments in language/communication, impaired imagination, and impaired ability to form relationships. All the primary symptoms of autism stem from these three impairments. Autistic people often have other difficulties as well, such as uncomfortable or even dangerous over- or undersensitivity to stimuli such as pain or sound, but these problems are not considered central to the condition in the way that the three impairments are. As a general rule, you can work out whether something is an autistic trait by seeing if it fits in with the triad. I don't think a tendency to think about the reality of your existence fits in anywhere - lots of people do that, autistic or not. Autism shapes the way you think rather than making you have a set of very specific thoughts. For example, suppose two people both start thinking about the question of their existence, one of them autistic and one of them not. The autistic person might read as much on the subject as he could, make a list of notable philosophers (in alphabetical order), and be practically incapable of talking about anything else for the next six weeks (or months, or years), due to rigidity of thought and obsessive behaviour. A non-autistic person would be able to pursue the interest without it taking over their life to such a huge extent, and they would probably be happy to learn about it in a less rigid and methodical way. This is an exaggerated example, but I think it shows what I mean.
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Re: Auristic Traits

Postby James Brimer » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:17 am

Thank you.
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Re: Auristic Traits

Postby James Brimer » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:03 am

This is a breif summary of what I have read so far, (been reasearching this for a few days now as most of my friends have AS)

Autism does not have one set of symptoms but the diagnosis revolves around three criteria, with each person on the Autistic Spectrum being effected differently. From what I gather there a three Diagnosis on the Autistic Spectrum: Autism, Aspergers Syndrome and Pervasive Developmental Disorder -Not Otherwise Specified.

5-10% of all Autistic people are Savants who show above average ability in area's such as Music, Art of Mathematics. With a ratio of 6:1 being the amount of men compared to women who have Savant Syndrome. Though 50% of savants may not have no cognitive disability. Far rarer are Prodigious Savants. About 50 Prodigious Savants are thought to live today, with Wilconsen Medical Society recording 29 Prodigious savants in there records.

People with Aspergers Syndrome are not usualy with drawn around others, they approach others, even if arcwadly. Though some may show selective mutism, not talking to people they do not now while excessively talking to those they now. People with Aspergers often show big intrests in a few subjects (a specialist subject, for example mine is human Biology), i.e Computing, Mathamatics etc (sorry for the stereotypes) and are very logical in there thinking. People with Aspergers often look for patterns in things and exhibit a dislike for change (though I would disagree for some of this, if I could I would get change my desktop background every few hours :twisted: ). While motor skills and sleep problems are common problems.

Is all this correct so far??

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Re: Auristic Traits

Postby James Brimer » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:04 am

This is a breif summary of what I have read so far, (been reasearching this for a few days now as most of my friends have AS)

Autism does not have one set of symptoms but the diagnosis revolves around three criteria, with each person on the Autistic Spectrum being effected differently. From what I gather there a three Diagnosis on the Autistic Spectrum: Autism, Aspergers Syndrome and Pervasive Developmental Disorder -Not Otherwise Specified.

5-10% of all Autistic people are Savants who show above average ability in area's such as Music, Art of Mathematics. With a ratio of 6:1 being the amount of men compared to women who have Savant Syndrome. Though 50% of savants may not have no cognitive disability. Far rarer are Prodigious Savants. About 50 Prodigious Savants are thought to live today, with Wilconsen Medical Society recording 29 Prodigious savants in there records.

People with Aspergers Syndrome are not usualy with drawn around others, they approach others, even if arcwadly. Though some may show selective mutism, not talking to people they do not now while excessively talking to those they now. People with Aspergers often show big intrests in a few subjects (a specialist subject, for example mine is human Biology), i.e Computing, Mathamatics etc (sorry for the stereotypes) and are very logical in there thinking. People with Aspergers often look for patterns in things and exhibit a dislike for change (though I would disagree for some of this, if I could I would get change my desktop background every few hours :twisted: ). While motor skills and sleep problems are common problems.

Is all this correct so far??

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