Discrimination?

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Discrimination?

Postby C » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:17 pm

I often see adverts for jobs requiring someone who is a driver.

If someone has a condition or impairment that prevents or makes it harder for them to drive, does anyone think that this is indirect discrimination (as it is not through choice that this person is a non driver?)

I think it's a tough one... I mean, you could also claim it discriminates against people who don't have much money as they can't afford driving lessons/a car. And if the job does involve a lot of travel than having a car would be more useful than buses/trains etc that could actually put the disabled person at a disadvantage (having to get up earlier to allow for travelling time, possibly extra money spent travelling, possibility of public transport not turning up and being unable to get to places or very late). However, in other ways I think it is discrimination a little bit, in that I didn't choose to not be a driver (I took lessons for two years before being advised by a specialist driving instructor to stop). Yet, it seems to disadvantage me in some ways - I am interested in jobs as a psychological research assistant - some of these say they require drivers. I can understand that I wouldn't be suitable in a job such as accounting, or sport related (and wouldn't even consider applying! Yet, if there is a job that I am perfectly qualified for, have the relevant skills for etc. isn't it putting me at a particular disadvantage in a way to say a driver is required?
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Re: Discrimination?

Postby parnassus » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:48 pm

I think it depends on the job. If you want to be a paramedic, you have to be able to drive the ambulance. If you want to be a taxi driver, you have to be able to drive the taxi. If you want to be a psychological research assistant, you have to be able to travel between research bases, or perhaps to the participants' homes. There's a difference between needing somebody who is able to drive and needing somebody who is prepared to travel, and I think that employers should make that distinction clear.

Sometimes it just happens by accident. When I applied for my old job as a support worker, I didn't notice until the very end of my application form that driving was listed as essential. I was so frustrated and angry that I nearly deleted my application then and there. But part of me thought, "Well, you've spent hours filling this in - you might at least submit it. It won't hurt them to look at it."

A few weeks later, I was invited to interview. I got the job. :)

They did need staff to be able to drive the students around, but it wasn't necessary for every single support worker to be a driver. If I hadn't applied, I would never have found out, so I suggest that you go for it.

Incidentally, have you thought about learning to drive a scooter? It involves a separate test and I hear it's a lot easier than car driving. I ask because I know that one of the psychologists at the Cambridge Autism Research Centre has got one, and not having a licence for a car doesn't seem to have held her back in her profession.
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Re: Discrimination?

Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:24 pm

I agree with what Viky said, except about the scooter. With a car you have metal all around your body, so even if you are involved in an accident, you are less likely to die because you are protected. With a scooter/bike/motrbike/moped you are more likely to die. Also you cannot give people lifts.

A friend who is not dyspraxic got hired for a job for which driving is essential even though he can't drive. (They forgot to ask him at the interview. They just assumed all 22 year olds can drive. :S) But they let him keep the job and learn to drive while he does other parts of it. (His job involves making computer programmes for lots of clinets. Some of the clients ask for what they want by email and others want someone to drive to meet them. Apparently public transport is not good enough for some unspecified reason.)
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Re: Discrimination?

Postby Remus » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:10 pm

I agree with Vicky and Esther, it does depend on the job and how essential it is. For example, a paramedic fair enough but for something else which doesn't require it badly, then I think is a bit unfair. As for wanting to be a psychological research assistant and transport, I cannot see why you would definitely have to be able to drive. Surely you could get help from co-workers or public transport.

I'm concerned also about the issue of driving within my career. It's not so bad now even though my mum got the provisional driving licence form the other day (I just want to scream "Stop pushing me!"). I am concerned for the future though as working in animal care, I think driving is big part of most animal establishments especially things like zoos and safari parks. At the nature centre, a few of them had bikes but obviously in a big safari park, I cannot exactly cycle or walk through a lion enclosure. :P

I think I am going to give driving a go eventually but I'm only going to try it, if it doesn't work out at least I can say I tried. I certainly wouldn't let it finish off my career though after all the darn work, I think if you want a career, go out and get no matter what the roadblocks and problems lie in the way.
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Re: Discrimination?

Postby Alice » Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:02 am

I'm going to give driving another go this summer, simply for future career reasons. I don't want to learn to drive, I find it difficult and I hate every second I'm behind the wheel, but it seems that many employers have not heard of public transport and asume unable to drive means housebound.
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Re: Discrimination?

Postby C » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:57 pm

I think Vicky's point about taxi drivers/paramedics is a good one... obviously in those kinds of jobs you would need a driver (I deliberately didn't include a 'don't know' response in the poll as I wanted people to think about it, it's easy to just click 'don't know' without really thinking.
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