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Postby fuzzy » Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:43 pm

Um I think i might have a personality disorder- well, actually, my mum thinks I do but Im not taking anything that she says to be nescearraly true, with her years of medical training *snorts*

I did this online test- go to google and type in 'personality disorder' and its the first thing that comes up- the 'persoanlity disorder test'. What did everyone else get? Maybe the test is inaccurate or this is somehow linked with dyspraxia.

Let me know what you think.
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Postby parnassus » Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:01 pm

I took the 126-question personality test at www.similarminds.com. I did this because I have quite good self-knowledge, and I would be more inclined to take the results of an online personality disorder test seriously if the site was capable of delivering an accurate representation of my personality overall. According to the test, Victoria Biggs is:

changeable, in the middle, suspicious, somewhat traditional, dislikes chaos, down to earth, group oriented, practical... you scored in the middle on the overall factors of this test.


Apparently I am also 'moderately organized'. Anyone who can call me practical, group-orientated, or moderately organized is clearly a few dates short of the proverbial palm tree. Hmm.

All the same, I then took the personality disorder test immediately afterwards. According to this, I have obsessive-compulsive, narcissistic, and dependent tendencies that are much more pronounced than average. Let's look at the definitions for these disorders.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder - individual has a grandiose view of themselves, a need for admiration, and a lack of empathy that begins by early adulthood and is present in various situations. These individuals are very demanding in their relationships.


Presumably I got a high score on this because I clicked 'very accurate' for 'I have unusual perceptions' (the makers of that test ought to see how I go about crossing a road!), 'Other people are envious of me' (some of them are - I have been very successful of late, and success always attracts jealousy), 'I think I am a good role model' (I am - for all my quirks, I am a sensible person at heart), and 'my thinking and speaking style is unusual' (it is - I used to get teased horribly for speaking like a university professor and not like a teenager). I'm not narcissistic, because I can see my faults as clearly as I can see my gifts. It's a poor sort of test if it expects you to answer the questions with bashful false modesty.

As for lack of empathy...I do have autistic tendencies. I can empathise very well if people only tell me what they are feeling. If they don't use words, I haven't a hope. This doesn't mean that I'm callous or arrogant; it means that I can't read body language.

Dependent Personality Disorder - individual shows an extreme need to be taken care of that leads to fears of separation, and passive and clinging behavior.


I'm eighteen years old and I struggle to tie my own shoelaces. I am as physically dependent on my parents and friends as a six-year-old is. Some would argue that asking your mum to fasten your shoes for you is a sign of 'an extreme need to be taken care of'. It definitely leads to fear of separation - when I went to Cambridge for my interview I was terrified that I would have difficulty dressing myself in the morning and no one would be around to help. For this reason, I made sure that none of my clothes had buttons. I don't have dependent personality disorder - I have extreme co-ordination, perceptual, and communicative difficulties that force me to ask for help rather more often than other people of my age do. And there's nothing wrong with that. If anything, I am displaying great independence by admitting that I need help and tackling my problems head-on.

Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder - individual is preoccupied with orderliness, perfectionism, and control at the expense of flexibility, openness, and efficiency.


Autistic people dislike change and embrace routine. I accept that I have autistic tendencies - I hate change and I would freeze time if I could, as I said in the test. I can't afford to try and be flexible; my short-term memory problems don't allow for spontaneity. I have to plan out my day meticulously, otherwise I come undone. But that doesn't mean I have OCD.

I am not a psychologist. I'm just trying to be logical. I did take an A-Level in psychology, though, and from the module that dealt with Abnormality I know that no online test is capable of diagnosing or even detecting a personality disorder. Psychiatrists and psychologists assess people for weeks at a stretch before they make diagnoses. And they rarely if ever rely on self-assessment tools. Think about it: is somebody with a personality disorder likely to tell the truth on an online questionnaire? Probably not.

In short, I don't think you have a personality disorder, Fuzzy. :D I also don't believe that dyspraxia is in any way linked with mental illness. It may trigger psychological 'pseudo-symptoms', however. For instance, I am a little bit paranoid. Owing to my lack of tact, I upset people quite easily and I'm always frightened that I might have hurt or offended someone by mistake. This is getting better now, thank goodness. And compared to someone with true paranoid personality disorder, I'm probably the most relaxed person on the planet.

I have a lovely friend named Marie whose parents forced her to see a psychologist because they thought she had a personality disorder. Her parents, to be frank, are downright cruel. They're making her pay for university all by herself, so she has had to put her A-Level study time in jeopardy by working in a shop for as many hours as she can. They think that they are helping her to be independent, but all they are doing is worrying her sick. (Marie, incidentally, is the only roommate who was loyal to me when Caged in Chaos came out.) She went to the psychologist because her parents had threatened to make her leave home if she didn't. As expected, the psychologist reported that she was perfectly normal. If anyone is dysfunctional in that family, it's not Marie.

You could chat to your educational psychologist about the possibility of personality disorders when you go to be assessed formally for dyspraxia, if it would make you feel any better. Ed. psychs. don't usually diagnose personality disorders, but I am sure she would be able to put your mind at ease.
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Postby fuzzy » Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:01 pm

Well i got told according to the test that I am 'very likley' to have Paranoid Personality Disorder. I scored high for another few but I dont think that just becuase your dramatic and like being accepted by others and getting attention means that there is something wrong with you- I dont see all actors being diagnosed with disorders like this one. The worrying thing is, that when I think about it and read through the symptoms listed on the site, I realised that it did match me very well, Im sorry to say :oops: Im really worryed about this- surely if I was some sort of nutcase i wouldnt be able to live a normal life and function in society? And also- maybe some of these symptoms link in with dyspraxia, you know, poor social skills etc....... Or am I just wary and paranoid in general because Iv been brought up with the mother I have and have therefore become very cynical that all relationships will be as unsucessfull as that one? I dunno what to think. Is my mum being her usual horrible self, trying to make me feel really bad and worryed or am I being paranoid thinking that she has this alternte aganda, which would link in well with the disorder that Im thinking I could have! Or was the test grossly innaccurate and therefore not worth paying attention to?

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Can more ppl plaese take the test to see if they find the results accurate or not? It would put my mind at ease, hopefully :shock:
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Postby monkey » Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:00 am

this is defently nto accurate.
i scared high in: Paranoid, Schizoid, Schizotypal, Avoidant, Obsessive-Compulsive.
moderate : Narcissistic
low: Antisocial, Borderline, Histrionic, Dependent.

taking a look at the ones i scored high in like parnassus as this is a good way to show how this is incorrect.


'Paranoid personality disorder is characterized by a distrust of others and a constant suspicion that people around you have sinister motives. People with this disorder tend to have excessive trust in their own knowledge and abilities and usually avoid close relationships. They search for hidden meanings in everything and read hostile intentions into the actions of others. They are quick to challenge the loyalties of friends and loved ones and often appear cold and distant. They usually shift blame to other people and tend to carry long grudges.'

i can assure you all tath i am not paranoid, i have witnessed some one who is paranoid in my mum. i admit to not tursting friendships becuase of past esperiences but dont asume the worst in everyone arouned me. i do suspect that my family might hert me, but this is only becuase there have been a number of attempts against my life in my family. surely i am alowed to suspect my faimily all considering with out beig ocnsidered Paranoid personality disorder.

'People with schizoid personality disorder avoid relationships and do not show much emotion. Unlike avoidants, schizoids genuinely prefer to be alone and do not secretly wish for popularity. They tend to seek jobs that require little social contact. Their social skills are often weak and they do not show a need for attention or acceptance. They are perceived by others as humorless and distant and often are termed "loners."'

that certainly descibes me, but again i dont have schizoid personality disorder. this would probebly be soemthing that every one on this site coudl assosiate with, as it also descibes alot of someone with Dyspraxia. although i do not avoid relationships, i now have many friends, and although i do tend not to interact when i am in a group of my friends i am very happy to when i am with one person in a quiet invorment. most people here will be very simerla, are we all schizoid? i hardly think so.

'Many believe that schizotypal personality disorder represents mild schizophrenia. The disorder is characterized by odd forms of thinking and perceiving, and individuals with this disorder often seek isolation from others. They sometimes believe to have extra sensory ability or that unrelated events relate to them in some important way. They generally engage in eccentric behavior and have difficulty concentrating for long periods of time. Their speech is often over elaborate and difficult to follow.'

again i can assure you all that i am not remotly schizophrenic. it was one of the disorders that i was cheeked for by the phsicolgest and phsiciatrest that saw me as it runs in my family. i would again not denie aht many a person belives me to be 'strange' or as my class mates said on teh last day of school 'mysterious and eccentric' (this is becase i didnt talk to any one and all my time in the common room was spent curled up behind a couch in the corner studing or in my own world). i certianly do not have extra sensory ability, and i do not belive that uncelated events relate to me.

Avoidant personality disorder is characterized by extreme social anxiety. People with this disorder often feel inadequate, avoid social situations, and seek out jobs with little contact with others. Avoidants are fearful of being rejected and worry about embarassing themselves in front of others. They exaggerate the potential difficulties of new situations to rationalize avoiding them. Often, they will create fantasy worlds to substitute for the real one. Unlike schizoid personality disorder, avoidants yearn for social relations yet feel they are unable to obtain them. They are frequently depressed and have low self-confidence.

another disorder characterized by extreme social anxiety. i needent say more. although i would like to point out that the test has contidicted itslef here is a peice from the explanation on People with schizoid personality disorder. 'People with schizoid personality disorder avoid relationships and do not show much emotion. Unlike avoidants, schizoids genuinely prefer to be alone and do not secretly wish for popularity.'

'Obsessive-Compulsive personality disorder is similar to obsessive-compulsive anxiety disorder. People with this disorder are overly focused on orderliness and perfection. Their need to do everything "right" often interferes with their productivity. They tend to get caught up in the details and miss the bigger picture. They set unreasonably high standards for themselves and others, and tend to be very critical of others when they do not live up to these high standards. They avoid working in teams, believing others to be too careless or incompetent. They avoid making decisions because they fear making mistakes and are rarely generous with their time or money. They often have difficulty expressing emotion.'

again i do not have obsessive-Compulsice personality disorder. this does not descibe me, i like there to be a partern to things yes, but again i think that stems form Dyspraxia more than any personality disorder.

just to finnishe of, i have been diagnosed with servear depresion (which i am making a good recovery from) and 'somthing on the anxiety scale' whcih was most unhelp ful but since looking into Dyspraxia i have put it down to that. and 'most probebly post tramatic stress disorder' also very unhelful becuase it was all very indesisive. the nearse from child and adolesent mental helth which sees me regulary initiauly expressed her suprise at it all being so un certain. i n ow realise that alot of confusion came form me being undiagnosed with Dyspraxia. when Dyspraxia was mentioned as my doctor suspected it, the psiciatrist insisted that it occurs after strokes and was not infact a learning disorder at all. the phsicolgest had also not herd anything about it. so just as a sujestion make suer any one you see actuly knows about Dyspraxia becuase alot of quaifiyed phsiclogesta and phsiciatrists dont have a clue and there four the actual diagnosis can be very confusing.
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Postby headinacloud » Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:55 pm

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Postby headinacloud » Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:02 pm

Monkey wrote:
when Dyspraxia was mentioned as my doctor suspected it, the psiciatrist insisted that it occurs after strokes and was not infact a learning disorder at all. the phsicolgest had also not herd anything about it. so just as a sujestion make suer any one you see actuly knows about Dyspraxia becuase alot of quaifiyed phsiclogesta and phsiciatrists dont have a clue and there four the actual diagnosis can be very confusing.


hmm, I noticed a little of this today. I rang up some people, supposedly from a learning disabilities organisation, to find out about assesment for dyspraxia. They hadn't even heard of it. :? Maybe it was actually a wedding dress maker who didn't have the heart to tell me I'd rung the wrong number. :?
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Postby parnassus » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:25 pm

In England, the term 'learning disability' is used to denote mental retardation of some sort. The term 'learning difficulty' indicates the presence of dyspraxia, dyslexia, dyscalculia, or an attention deficit. In America, however, I know that the 'dyses' are referred to as learning disabilities.

Which definition do the Australians adhere to, the American one or the English one? If the organisation you telephoned favours the English definition, they probably wouldn't have heard of dyspraxia because it isn't an intellectual disability, and thus falls beyond their field of expertise.

Either that or they're just...errr...not as well up on these matters as they ought to be.
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Postby fuzzy » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:33 pm

Hey guys. Thanks for taking the tests; youv put my mind at rest a bit. Haedinacloud, I think that your right- if you start resaerching stuff like this you'll end up convincing yourself that youv got every disorder in the book!!! Also, I think your all right about not trusting online assesments like this one; 'yes' and 'no' are too general. I also dont think that its a coinsedense that we all scored high in at least one disorder- I think that a lot of these diorders tie in with dyspraxic difficulties such as poor socail skills. Its just that it was my sister that initailly thought that I may have one and she has a degree in Physcology- which makes me worry that she'll really know what shes talking about...... :shock: But as one of my frineds said to me last night, everyones personality is different and all ppl have thier indivaul quirks and eccentricities- but just beacuse your not the norm and have 'bad pints' doesnt mean that you have a PD.
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Postby parnassus » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:01 pm

What kind of psychologist is your sister? There are many, many different types of psychology degree - you can specialise in at least two dozen different areas and counting. Not all psychologists are qualified to diagnose personality disorders. And even if your sister does work with people who have these disorders, it's more than likely that she's just bringing her work home with her. I started seeing special educational needs everywhere for a couple of months after my diagnosis. Half my corridor had dyslexia and the other half had AD/HD, by my reckoning. If you think about something a lot, you are bound to see it.
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Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:38 pm

According to the stupid website I have:
Schitzoid Personality Disorder
Schitzotypical Personality Disorder
Antisocial Personality Disorder
Histrionic Personality Disorder
Dependent Personality Disorder
I'd better lock myself up. I'm clearly a danger to myself and others!
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Postby alexlaird87 » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:48 pm

i wonder what kind of wierd and unusual person could possably not have anything wrong with them. seems damb near impossible.
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Postby alexlaird87 » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:10 pm

hahahahahahaha!!!!!

just did this test and found it very funny, especialy the question "Do you tend to lie a lot? Y/N". lol.

apparently im Schizotypal, because i can be a little eccentric,
im both Histrionic AND Avoidant, so i both love and hate being the center of attention.
im also Dependent, because i can be sensitive and deprressed sometimes. LOL

and Fuzzy, shame on you for ever thinking you might have a PD.

P.S. did anyone else notice the link at the bottom of each disorder's page which can help you with your "personality Disorder". lol.
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Postby parnassus » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:45 pm

Like, I'll think I have schizophrenia cause it said something about schizophrenics having disorganised thought


According to the A-Level psychology textbook, thought schizophrenic goes this disorganised like corporation of purple queens sense no make just erratic links that.

We had to watch a video on schizophrenia. Some people with certain types of the disorder conversed perfectly normally. Others had very disorganised language that reflected their scattered thoughts.

People with 'schizophrenic language' have real trouble with metaphor and make connections that no one else would think of making. Their grammar seems to disintegrate, too.

If you had that form of schizophrenia, I doubt you'd be so lucid...
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Postby bibliophile » Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:27 pm

i'm avoident Narcissistic whatever that means! oh well i don't think i am and am pretty sure they no no more about phycolkogy then phycology for dummies and are taking advantage of everyones insecurities!
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Postby monkey » Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:58 pm

prehapes this was an on-line joke or another ploy to scam money
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