parnassus wrote:It is completely wrong NOT to send them to prison but as my friends don't hurt anybody, I don't find that a valid example.
But based on what you said originally - that people shouldn't be isolated because of their decisions - it was a valid example, as to commit murder is to make a choice. Now you have qualified your original statement by saying that it is OK to isolate people based on their decisions if that decision hurts people. And your friends are hurting people - themselves. Drug-taking is a tragedy and it can so easily go horribly, horribly wrong. There is a link between cannabis and mental illness (schizophrenia). LSD can trigger heart attacks. It is not right for a person to hurt him or herself in that way.
I apologize if I'm derailing the thread, I did not get a chance to read it all however your comment about LSD prompted me to do some research and I found that the lethal dose of LSD requires 38,500 street doses. I find it unlikely you would die from taking LSD directly, however it is possible to die by doing something stupid obviously.
The LD50 (dose at which 50% of administrations are fatal) of LSD is approximately 55mg/KG in mice. Assuming that the human body is reasonably similar in metabolism, that means that in order to kill an average human weighing 70KG (~155lb), they would have to ingest 3,850mg of LSD to die half of the time.
LSD is -the- most potent psychoactive currently known, and the psychotropic threshold is about 35-70ug (micrograms). Street doses are around 100ug.
A subject would have to ingest 38,500 street doses of unadulterated LSD* to die half of the time. If street prices are $5 per hit (conservative), it would cost $192,500 to obtain this much LSD.
Can you die from LSD poisoning? Yes, but it has yet to be documented in a human. Can you die from self-injury or recklessness while out of your mind on LSD? Absolutely, it happens all the time.
* LSD is often mixed with amphetamine derivatives, methamphetamine, caffeine, phencyclidine, pseudoephedrine, all of which are cardiotoxic and will kill you thousands of times faster than LSD itself, which is a remarkably safe drug, systemically.