Riots in France

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Riots in France

Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:19 pm

What does everyone think about the recent riots in France?
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Postby pinkparrot » Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:47 pm

What riots in France?
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Postby Miranda » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:10 pm

THE riots in France
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Postby pinkparrot » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:11 pm

What riots in France? :oops:
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Postby pinkparrot » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:24 pm

Oh, right! What is there to think?
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Postby Miranda » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:26 pm

erm

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Postby Hermionefan5 » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:30 pm

Is it mostly about religion? Because that's what I got from it... :? It's sad. :(
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Postby parnassus » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:32 pm

I don't think it's about religion at all. It's more to do with socio-economics. The French government is trying to introduce a new policy that the unemployed (many of whom are of Arab or African origin) fear will reduce their chances of getting work even further. They're panicking, and other people - violent thugs - are jumping at the opportunity to participate in vicious crime.
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Postby pinkparrot » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:35 pm

Panic attack! Oh dear!

Panic attack+violent thugs=????
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Postby parnassus » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:58 pm

Not to be too pedantic, but - well, I am Vicky.

A panic attack is a biological reaction, triggered by phobias or excess fear. I don't think the rioters are all suffering from panic attacks - if they were, the police would find it very easy to round them up. :wink:
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Postby pinkparrot » Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:22 pm

Yes, parnassus, I am fully aware of that as I have had them myself! It was just a spin on the phrase. :lol:
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Postby eDan » Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:42 pm

A French government minister called the rioters the French equivalent of 'scum'. This wasn't helpful and if anything provoked the situation. However on hearing what some of the rioters did - I heard a news report of a bus being set on fire that had a disabled person on, and the bus driver had to go back on the bus to get them off, both suffering severe burns in the process - I start to find it difficult to entirely disagree with such language.

Vicky is right in that socio-economic situations are at the root of the problem. There are areas that are particularly deprived where much of the population lives in poverty. The French government has also taken a policy of France being a secular state, in the banning of the Hejab (sp?) which annoyed some, but I don't think is the cause for this. I suspect there are a number of accumulated reasons for the riots, but this has been combined with a number of people with little better to do looking for an excuse to run havoc. They currently have one.

What I fear is that the riots may lead to a knee-jerk response by the French equivalent of middle-Englanders into supporting more right-wing political parties, which will only cause further friction in the future.
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Postby fuzzy » Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:17 pm

I think that highlights a lot of the racial tension between diffrent ethnic groups living in France. I think that Vicky and Dan are right to a certain extent, yet this probably has a lot more to do with race and 'unwanted' immigrants than you think.
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Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:03 pm

I know that some people on this forum are dyscalculic and find it difficult to read numbers, but here are some statistics.
9% of the overall population in France are unemployed.
30% of immigrants in France are unemployed.

4% of people with University degrees overall are unemployed in France.
25% of immigrants with degrees are unemployed in France.

France does not recognise ethnic minorities. This means that it does not recognise descrimination against ethnic minorities. This means that it doesn't do anything to combat descrimination against ethnic minority people who are looking for jobs.
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