MMR Debate

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Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:59 am

Measeles, mumps and rubella are serious illnesses. It is possible to die of measels. It is not possible to die of autism.
Tests in Japan have shown that giving three separate jabs did not decrease the number of chuildren with autism.
Measels can be very disabling. It can cause blindness, deafness, difficulty walking and speech problems. These complications can be as disabling as autism, if not more so.
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Postby _C_ » Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:50 pm

Slightly off topic here, but i had a triple vaccine on tuesday, Polio/Tetanus/Diptheria, and i fainted 3 times afterwards. Once straight after, once half an hour after, once an hour and a half after. i hate jabs...
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Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:16 pm

((virtual hugs)) Did you faint from fear, or was it an allergic reaction to the jab?
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Postby Black_Haired_Angel » Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:33 pm

all i can say abotu the mmr debate is i had the mmr and im fine!!
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Postby parnassus » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:40 pm

You do have dyspraxia, though, and some people consider that to be an autistic spectrum disorder...
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Postby k9ruby » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:42 pm

Thats why we're very careful about what jabs i do/dont have.
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Postby parnassus » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:45 pm

Ruby, the MMR/autism claims are unscientific and unsubstantiated. The only evidence its proponents have is anecdotal. For the reasons given by Thirteen-thirty-seven, I suggest you do get the injections you need. Diseases kill. Dyspraxia doesn't.
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Postby pinkparrot » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:54 pm

...but it can come close!
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Postby Black_Haired_Angel » Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:42 pm

parnassus wrote:You do have dyspraxia, though, and some people consider that to be an autistic spectrum disorder...


not sure for 100% if i have it thou and sum how sum of the sytom which are link to austim r nothign liek me! liek im very sosialble adn that!! i jsut understand sarcasim thou and no more
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Postby parnassus » Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:54 pm

Most of us are about as socially graceful as rhinoceroses! :wink: I think you've escaped without the autistic traces.
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Postby Danni » Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:07 pm

My sister is Asperger's. She was displaying some symptoms before she got the MMR. Ditto with my brother. I didn't get the MMR until school, by which point I was already very clumsy.

I let my daughter have the MMR at 13 months. So far, she's been fine, but I know that often with Autism children develop normally for the first 2 years then regress. I'm aware of that (family history of Autistic Spectrum Disorders on both sides of the family!) but am not worrying about it. I'll let her develop at her own rate :)
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Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:41 am

I may have mentioned this before, but giving the three jabs separartely did not reduce rates of autism in Japan.
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Postby Black_Haired_Angel » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:26 pm

yeah!
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Postby towildhoney » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:47 pm

If I had children I can appreciate that the prospect of autism would be extremley scarry but as the evidence stands theres no proven link between MMR and autism. People seem to with the threat of autism forgotten the risk of measels and the other diseases they are leaving there children exposed to if they don't have them vacinated. Especialy as people havn't been having there children vacinated so heard immunity has dropped to very low levels in some parts of london
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Postby Black_Haired_Angel » Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:00 pm

my cousin has autism and i think developed his syntoms b4 the jab as well
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