The ban on religious clothing/accessories in France

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Do you agree with the French ban on the wearing of religious garb in public places?

Yes, because it promotes equality
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6%
Yes, because it will help to fight dangerous kinds of fundamentalism
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Yes, because religion does not belong in a school setting
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No, because it compromises people's freedom
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No, because it is discriminatory
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33%
No, because it goes against everything that secularism stands for
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11%
I don't know
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No votes
 
Total votes : 18

Postby chocolatefudgecake » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:58 pm

Same here!
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Postby Hermionefan5 » Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:04 am

I think that everyone has a right to practice their own religion and wear their own symbol of religion. It promotes religious awareness and it may just help someone else become a follower of a particular religion. It could help someone become a better person if they follow religious traditions. Also, it makes the world more diverse, which i think is a good thing. :D FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!! WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THAT?? :?
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Postby chocolatefudgecake » Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:06 am

Hermionefan5 wrote::D FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!! WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THAT?? :?


That is a good question.
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Postby pinkparrot » Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:38 am

Yes.
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Postby chocolatefudgecake » Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:40 am

Like I said:

chocolatefudgecake wrote:I think people should be aloud to wear what they want, where they want.

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Postby sumer » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:12 pm

I AM CATHOLIC WATS WRONG WITH THE STUFF WE WEAR
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Postby chocolatefudgecake » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:23 pm

My point exactly.
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Postby eDan » Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:22 pm

sumer wrote:I AM CATHOLIC WATS WRONG WITH THE STUFF WE WEAR


Ask the French government. I think their reasoning is perplexing a lot of people.
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Postby pinkparrot » Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:20 am

Woah, sumer! It's not us who have the problems with religious symbols!
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Postby parnassus » Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:58 pm

I am a Roman Catholic too, sumer. I usually wear a crucifix or a medallion of Mary. But in France I would not be allowed to display my faith at school. This is the subject of the debate.
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Postby carrie » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:34 am

should be allowed to be equal Im a christian so shouldnt be stopped from dressing respectfully and what ever so why cant they dress how they think right
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Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:57 am

parnassus wrote: But it is forbidden for a Muslim girl who has reached puberty to appear in public without hijab. (To be 'in hijab' is to cover everything but your face and your hands.) .

I thought it was only compulsory to wear a headscarf. :?
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Postby Hermionefan5 » Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:06 am

parnassus wrote:I am a Roman Catholic too, sumer. I usually wear a crucifix or a medallion of Mary. But in France I would not be allowed to display my faith at school. This is the subject of the debate.


There is something similar to not being able to display religion here in the US. You can't bring a Bible to school. You can wear religious clothing/dress, but you can't bring a Bible, Torah, Koran, etc. to school because it violates the separation of church and state. No one really gets in much trouble for it though. I have brought a Bible to school and actually read it during Resource class (study hall for kids with disabilities). No one really cared. But some ppl make a big deal of it. In colleges you can read the Bible and pretty much wear whatever religious symbol you want. In high school, junior high, and primary school it is only satanist clothing/jewelry that is not allowed. Most things religious are allowed here, but people complain about religion in schools all the time. There was a guy who was agnostic (didn't believe there was any type of god) that tried to get the word "God" taken out of the Pledge of Allegiance because his daughter had to recite the word ever day even though the family did not believe in a god. this is understandable, he is just trying to look out for the wellbeing of his daughter, right? But, his daughter DOES have a choice of whether or not to say the word God while reciting the pledge. No one has specifically said you have to say it! It was a huge uproar and the guy eventually won in his state (I think it was California) and they said that she had the choice of if she wanted to say the word or not. Which she did in the first place, so I don't know why they went to all that trouble. :? Why can't ppl just accept that everyone has different beliefs and we want to show them every once and awhile? What's all this fuss about praying at high school football games? If you don't want to do it, no one said you had to. Just don't try to change all the things others are doing becuase it is not your belief! 8)
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Postby parnassus » Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:46 pm

Atheists don't believe in any god. Agnostics say they aren't sure about it one way or the other.

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Postby eDan » Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:08 pm

parnassus wrote:"An agnostic is an atheist who has hedged his bets."


LOL! I like that one!
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