New licensing Laws

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Do you agree with the extended British Licensing Laws?

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New licensing Laws

Postby fuzzy » Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:38 pm

What does everyone also think of the new extended licensing laws in the UK that start from midnight tonight? Good or bad?
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Postby mattie » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:47 pm

I guess only time will tell. However, I personally don't really see how it can be a good thing. Letting people drink 24 hours a day will only lead to more problems IMO.


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Postby eDan » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:33 pm

I can understand the logic behind the law. The government thinks (hopes?) that by not having a set (and relatively early) chucking out time, that we won't have hordes of drunken people out on the streets at once. Instead they'll be staggered, like the way the people leaving the bars will be walking! The government is aiming for a sensible drinking culture like on continental Europe. Whether this transpires or not is to be seen. I suspect while people adjust it could be messy.
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Postby chocolatefudgecake » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:49 pm

I think it will let them get more drunk, just not on the street.
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Postby parnassus » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:05 pm

I think they will just stay in the pub for as long as possible and get totally plastered. The only advantage is that they will all be in a drunken stupor when they are thrown out, and you can't cause trouble when you're comatose.
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Postby eDan » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:22 pm

I think there may be some instances of prolongued drinking when the law first comes into effect. I hope that the novelty will wear off before long, and then people will learn that they don't need to drink excessively before a certain time, but they can go out and enjoy themselves, drink in moderation, and leave when they're ready. It's quite a turn-about in culture.
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Postby parnassus » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:31 pm

I don't know if we can realistically expect a lager lout to behave reasonably.
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Postby pinkparrot » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:36 pm

That's true, for that is why they became lager louts to begin with!
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Postby eDan » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:54 pm

There is however something of a culture whereby to feel you have had your money's worth, if you can't spend as long as you'd like in the pub socialising with your friends, then at least you'll get your units-of-alcohol worth. This isn't the domain solely of the lager lout, but common practice for many thousands of otherwise respectable people after an evening of letting their hair down.

Now, I believe there are many, many people out there who want to go out, have a sit with their friends for as many hours as they want, having a few drinks along the way, and go home at the end of it. With longer opening hours they won't be clock watching - rushing - both conversation and drinks before the final bell. I hope they'll find the time they want, take it gently, leave the pub in a reasonable state, and that's that.

Lager-louts and their type are a different situation entirely, and I don't think the target of the government with this legislation. Some will deliberately drink to excess with an intent of causing a nuisance of themselves - or worse. For these people it's more a case of police intervention, and self-policing of licenced establishments to ensure that those who have already drunk enough aren't still served.
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Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:13 pm

I think that the point of the laws was to curb the violence that happens every night at "chucking out time", when the pubs close. When this happens, the streets are filled with throngs of drunks and violence is inevitable. In the wake of the new laws, this won't happen. However, i don't think the laws were intended to cut down binge-drinking. I can't think of any law that would. Even completely outlawing alcohol wouldn't work - it would be unenforceable.
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Postby pinkparrot » Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:09 pm

As long as alcohol is involved violence is inevitable because some people drink too much.
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Postby intowiz » Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:55 pm

im going to agree with everything edan said except for now and again i like to get hammered but only at parties. me and my friends have a thing of five peaple stay sober the rest of us do wastever we want. then at the next party the five peaple changes.
and also you cant ban alchohoil. i mean look wat happend to the us when that happened.
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