Is Ruth Kelly right to send her son to a private school?

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Is Ruth Kelly right to send her son to a private school?

Postby Dork_Lord » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:23 am

What are your opinions on this? Ruth Kelly's son has dyslexia and possible dyspraxia (uncomfirmed)
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Postby intowiz » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:44 am

so are you saying because of his disabilitie/s she might be sending him to a special school?
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Postby parnassus » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:03 pm

Yes. He couldn't cope in a mainstream school and wasn't getting enough support, so Ruth Kelly transferred him to a private school that offers specialist services for children with dyslexia.
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Postby Dork_Lord » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:55 pm

What's confused me is that is the school a special needs school specifically for those with learning difficulties, or alternatively a regular private school which has a good special needs provision. Could someone answer this for me?
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Postby carrie » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:23 pm

not exactly sure but what I know is that she should do what is best for him and his circumstances
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Postby Joss1991 » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:06 pm

he should get the help he needs however its showing that state schools really arent good enough for SPLD learners and Ruth knows that , even though she was the one who was meant to focuse on making schools better. So i guess what im saying is that she shouldnt of had to send him to a special school as state schools should know how to teach SPLD learners.
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Postby Thirteen-thirty-seven » Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:50 pm

The state system should know how to lteach people with SPLD, but it doesn't. Ruth Kelly could and should have done more to help, but she couldn't have solved the problem completely - she wasn't education secretary long enough to do that. Also, it's a bit of a postcode lottery - the quality of dupport you receive depends on your LEA.

Rith Kelly has 3 other children who are all in the state system - so it's not that hse thinks it's a total failure, just that it isn't giving SPLD learners enough support.
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Postby Katielauren2001 » Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:26 pm

I think people with dyslexia/dyspraxia or any other related disabilities should be able to cope in a state school,but if she thinks it will benifit his education then it is up to her, the only advantage for me would be that I wouldn't get bullied.

State schools are currently coming up with new things for their disabled pupils and helping them have an easier education.So I don't really know what to say,I have mixed feelings.The state school have resource bases and can teach you there,if only for one or two periods and week just to lift the weight of your head and help you will homework and class tasks.
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Postby parnassus » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:30 am

I think people with dyslexia/dyspraxia or any other related disabilities should be able to cope in a state school,but if she thinks it will benifit his education then it is up to her, the only advantage for me would be that I wouldn't get bullied.


I was bullied in my boarding school, which is private. One boy came up to me in November and said, "Haven't you noticed that you've been here nearly all term and you haven't got any friends yet?" That was the beginning. I used to be terrified of walking into our form room because they used to surround my desk and really shriek. It felt like I was being compressed by walls of sound. In the end I would wait on the staircase and enter with the teacher. Lessons like art, when they had licence to move round the classroom, were absolutely terrible - I never knew what would happen to my painting or get dropped in my hair.

Those particular bullies left me alone towards the end of third year (Year 9), but people attempted to take their places throughout my time at school. As my confidence in myself and my work improved, it got so I just didn't care anymore. I was too happy to bother. :) But going to a private school is no guarantee that you won't be bullied, sadly.
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Postby Dork_Lord » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:00 am

I think the current special needs provision in state schools is totally inadequate. I don't know anything about private schools SEN provision as ive never been to one. I believe that being sent to a boarding school however would not be a good idea for a dyspraxic as this can make bullying far worse
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Postby parnassus » Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:26 pm

I enjoyed boarding school very much in the end. I did have friends there. Ironically, the bullies belonged to the day-school - in all the years except my last, the boarders treated each other as family. In my last year some factions appeared. :roll:

Special needs provision varies wildly in private schools. Sometimes there is none. Literally none. I know a girl with AD/HD who applied to enter a boarding school near mine and was told that 'our students don't have that kind of problem'. Other private schools make excellent provision.
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Postby Page » Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:04 pm

In the States, (especially in California) private education is often MUCH better than public education.
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Postby JamieB2712 » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:43 pm

She is absolutely right. It is her right as a Mother to make the decision if she feels it will benefit her child and not worry about what the media will say. It is especially right considering the extenuating circumstances
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Postby Hermionefan5 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:56 am

Page wrote:In the States, (especially in California) private education is often MUCH better than public education.


But it's often MUCH more costly, especially in Illinois. I went to public school and I did get bullied. I didn't get diagnosed as LD until Junior High, but I had a lot of teachers and friends who cared for me. I made it through public school and I'm probably just as smart as those people who went to private school. Public schooling also taught me more about diversity. A lot of public schools from my experience are mostly full of white middle to upper class kids. They don't have as much racial and ethnic diversity. That racial and ethnic diversity was good for me. It's not that it couldn't be taught in private schools, but I experienced going to school with lots of kids of different races and ethnic backgrounds. I think the experience was an important one.

It is true though that the public schools are underfunded and the teachers don't get paid enough for what they do. Illinois public schools are really in a bad state right now. We need education reform, but there just hasn't been any. The Chicago public schools suffer and the other big city schools probably suffer the most from underfunding. However, growing districts like the one in my town are suffering because we can't get enough money to build schools and we can't get enough money to pay our teachers the amount they deserve. The schools in central and southern Illinois suffer from underfunding as well. It really stinks that there is such a defecit in money.

Plus, the NO Child Left Behind Act is leaving all children behind. Kids are given unrealistic goals for success and schools which are underfunded suffer since they don't have enough money to pay for good school supplies, books, etc.

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Postby Joss1991 » Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:31 pm

there is no guaranty that a child wont be bullied weather there sent to a state , private or special needs school. Yes they are less likely to be bullied at a special needs school because of there promblems however i find that at my school (a SPLD school) bullying is just as present mainly as lots of people have been bullied so they have terrible low self asteem so they go into i will bully you before you bully me. Also the competion to be the best is very high as no one wants to be at the bottom of the class as lots of us have been as state and private schools. Therefore kids tend to bully people there jelouse of to protect themselves about race, intelligents , religion ect.
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