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margaret thatcher

Postby nathanw-j » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:33 am

what does everyone think of her?

i think she was a idiot because her policies/thingies werent very good.
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby MontyDyspraxia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:22 pm

I wasn't born when she was prime minister, so I have no real opinion of her.




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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby BethanyGillam » Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:10 am

She was a great leader and her policies saved the entire nation. I am mainly south African although half British, she helped to end apartheid and the cold war. My Dad is from Liverpool and his dad was a miner. If the mines were still open my dad would have gone down the mines and had no social mobility, but instead he got an education and now owns a successful business. So what she did was create a larger middleclass, which is what Obama is doing now In America. Nobody in the history of the world has done as much to distribute wealth. Now even the poorest people can inherit the earth. People can't keep going back to the mine argument because labour closed more mines than her. R.I.P to the greatest social equaliser there has ever been.
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby Rodge1991 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:45 am

From what I know she was a great leader. Sure, her policies may not of been top notch been when are they ever are :?: :!: :lol:

What she had was a backbone; she would not bow down to anyone-a strong willed person. That's what our Government needs, a person with strong determination, not a jellyfish.
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby safcjcp » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:26 pm

She destroyed communities by closing the mines and the shipyards and unemployment sky rocketed in the UK turning people in this country against each other.
she privatized a lot of public sector companies what are now moving a lot of their business to other countries, and helped change the banks to the system what has crashed and helped cause the recession we are in now.
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby Remus » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:46 am

She was before my time so I don't really have much of an opinion on her.

Although I have to say, I did find it quite sickening all those people celebrating her death. Regardless of what she did or if you disagree with it, have some human decency and be respectful.
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby Steph » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:59 am

I don't agree with some of her policies but I think it's disgusting that people were celebrating her death.
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby Brian » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:42 pm

I never felt as unsympathetic in my life about a death when I heard about her death.

She was not a nice person at all. Her policies on Northern Ireland were pretty disastrous and she handled Northern Ireland quite poorly.

She also did damage internally aswell. The way she damaged the mining communities will never be forgotten. Then you hear stories about what she did with the NHS after she died.
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby Maximus » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:57 pm

What is there to say? She was the greatest Prime Minister this country has ever had. Without her there is no way of telling how low this country could have sunk, with the tyranny of the Unions at a level which we will, thankfully, never see again. She defeated Socialism, successfully defended British land against a murderous military junta, had the courage to take on the Soviet Union (and in doing so gave Reagan the nerve to do the same, effectively ending the Cold War) liberalised the labour and financial sectors allowing people like my father (someone who arrived in this country with no money and no English) to better themselves as long thy were willing to work hard. As David Cameron said in Parliament "She made this country great again".
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby Brian » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:04 pm

Maximus wrote:What is there to say? She was the greatest Prime Minister this country has ever had. Without her there is no way of telling how low this country could have sunk, with the tyranny of the Unions at a level which we will, thankfully, never see again. She defeated Socialism, successfully defended British land against a murderous military junta, had the courage to take on the Soviet Union (and in doing so gave Reagan the nerve to do the same, effectively ending the Cold War) liberalised the labour and financial sectors allowing people like my father (someone who arrived in this country with no money and no English) to better themselves as long thy were willing to work hard. As David Cameron said in Parliament "She made this country great again".


Complete and utter nonsense there. How many lives did she ruin in the UK, she destroyed communities.

Allowed 10 men to die in the maze prison then end up giving the prisoners what they campaigned for after the ten had died.

She tried to defeat socialism that was her aim. It didn't work. What happened you had Labour winning three consecutive general elections, starting seven years after she left as PM. Defeating socialism my ass, seven years is nothing in politics.
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby Maximus » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:14 pm

Brian wrote:
Maximus wrote:What is there to say? She was the greatest Prime Minister this country has ever had. Without her there is no way of telling how low this country could have sunk, with the tyranny of the Unions at a level which we will, thankfully, never see again. She defeated Socialism, successfully defended British land against a murderous military junta, had the courage to take on the Soviet Union (and in doing so gave Reagan the nerve to do the same, effectively ending the Cold War) liberalised the labour and financial sectors allowing people like my father (someone who arrived in this country with no money and no English) to better themselves as long thy were willing to work hard. As David Cameron said in Parliament "She made this country great again".


Complete and utter bullshit there. How many lives did she ruin in the UK, destroyed communities.

Allowed 10 men to die in the maze prison then end up giving the prisoners what they campaigned for after the ten had died.

She tried to defeat socialism that was her aim. It didn't work. What happened you had Labour winning three consecutive general elections after starting seven years after she left as PM. Defeating socialism my ass, seven years is nothing in politics.



She did defeat Socialism and it was her own party that brought her down. The three Labour governments were the product of spin, not ideology. In 1979 tax was at absurd levels and inflation was over 20% and anything and everything was owned by the state. Britain went begging to the IMF because of Labour's profligacy and what absurd suggestion, that the welfare of terrorists matter. It is a pity they didn't die sooner.
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby Rodge1991 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:44 am

Obviously she has great points and bad points, but at least she HAD some great points....unlike current government running this country like a peanut butter factory
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby Brian » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:26 pm

Maximus wrote:She did defeat Socialism and it was her own party that brought her down. The three Labour governments were the product of spin, not ideology. In 1979 tax was at absurd levels and inflation was over 20% and anything and everything was owned by the state. Britain went begging to the IMF because of Labour's profligacy and what absurd suggestion, that the welfare of terrorists matter. It is a pity they didn't die sooner.


Delusional post there. If she was success at getting rid of socialism how come Sinn Fein were still winning seats in the house of commons, Labour were in government for 12 years seven years after she resigned as PM.

She didn't defeated Socialism at all, she is the reason why the Labour party is so strong in the North. She messed around with so many people in the North of England that most people will never ever vote for the Conservatives.
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby Maximus » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:00 pm

Brian wrote:
Maximus wrote:She did defeat Socialism and it was her own party that brought her down. The three Labour governments were the product of spin, not ideology. In 1979 tax was at absurd levels and inflation was over 20% and anything and everything was owned by the state. Britain went begging to the IMF because of Labour's profligacy and what absurd suggestion, that the welfare of terrorists matter. It is a pity they didn't die sooner.


Delusional post there. If she was success at getting rid of socialism how come Sinn Fein were still winning seats in the house of commons, Labour were in government for 12 years seven years after she resigned as PM.

She didn't defeated Socialism at all, she is the reason why the Labour party is so strong in the North. She messed around with so many people in the North of England that most people will never ever vote for the Conservatives.



What you fail to realise is that the Labour Party post Thatcher was nothing like Labour in 1979. It took them seven years and a general election to prove to the electorate that they weren't the demented Marxists of the 70s. How many of Thatcher's economic reforms did they reverse? None. When did they raise the top rate of tax? A few days before the 2010 general election in a desperate bid for popular appeal. Margaret Thatcher turned millions of working class people into Conservative voters, hence her being the longest serving Prime Minister of the 20th century. When she was asked what her greatest achievement was her response was "Tony Blair" and thanks to her there will never again will there be a genuinely Socialist government in this country.

"She messed around with so many people in the North of England that most people will never ever vote for the Conservatives"

The Conservatives had the best turnout for 80 years in 2010. Try again.
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Re: margaret thatcher

Postby Dan » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:29 pm

She did a lot of good things early on in her term but seemingly went a little bit power-hungry later. The victory in the Falklands solidified her following and her confidence, which inevitably lead to some hugely unpopular decisions which eventually lead to her being ousted. She was a very strong woman and I think her leadership was stronger than most other prime ministers, I just think she was a bit far-reaching with privatisation and welfare cuts. One of her unpopular decisions which I happen to think was good was standing up to the miners' unions after stockpiling coal.
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